The political trial

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The political trial

Postby Niner Alpha » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:23 pm

I watched, like a lot of other people, the first act of the political trial of Trump. Obviously the Republicans aren't going to impeach an already removed from the Oval office President and go along with preventing him from attempting to return in the future to stir the pot no matter what crimes he actually could be convicted of committing. Hell, many of the Senate Republican politicians, one from Alabama in particular, just got elected on the one note samba that went "I'm with Trump, ta da, ta da" as the answer to all questions political and can't be expected to vote to censure their pied piper. However, it is quite obvious that the majority of the Republicans think it's no crime for Trump and his cronies to gather a mob, along with fringe violent groups they can use, and tell that mob to march to the capital and "Fight to keep their country" and to hold Mike Pence accountable as the sacrificial lamb if he doesn't do something he can't do. And while they are at it, for the mob to find the most flagrant anti Trump Democrats and do with them as Trump might think they deserve. This political pageant will probably go on a day or two more and in the end the players will take a bow and exit stage right and nothing will actually happen to Trump. If in the unlikely case it does, other than ostracizing him for a political gaff, nothing will happen for a President that probably should be tried for treason and banished to Russia if only for holding the rally in opposition to certification of the vote.
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Re: The political trial

Postby Niner Alpha » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:01 am

Here is part of a late editorial. It concerns a new Alabama Senator who got elected on supporting Trump with no independent thought about any issue of his own other than he loved Trump and would do whatever Trump wished.

https://www.al.com/news/2021/02/just-ke ... ville.html

The main argument is this:


Here’s what we know so far.

On Wednesday, after the second day of impeachment hearings, Tuberville spoke with reporters about a phone call he had with the president the day of the attack on the U.S. Capitol. As insurgents stormed the building, Pence’s security swept the vice president out of the Senate chambers. Tuberville says he was on the phone with Trump, who wanted his help delaying the Senate count of electoral votes.

“I said ‘Mr. President, they just took the vice president out, I’ve got to go,’” Tuberville told Politico.

At least Tuberville has sense enough to look out for his own safety.

But if Tuberville is telling the truth, what he’s revealed is important — not only that Trump would have known Pence was in danger, but more importantly when Pence was in danger.

Tuberville would have told Trump that Pence had been evacuated from the Senate chambers around 2:15 p.m.

About 10 minutes later, Trump tweeted angrily about the vice president.

“Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify,” Trump tweeted before his account was suspended. “USA demands the truth!”

There are only a few ways to interpret this. Either, Trump didn’t care his vice president was in danger and recklessly put his life at further risk. Or Trump did care — and wanted him pursued, or hurt, or killed.
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Re: The political trial

Postby Delta75 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:55 pm

Even if the Lord Jesus Christ were the lead prosecutor, the spineless GOP senators, cowards that they are, would never vote to convict Trump. Most are afraid that, if they did, Trump would put them on his hit list the next time that they are up for re-election. The worst of the lot are those like Cruz, Graham, Paul, and Rubio.
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Re: The political trial

Postby Niner Alpha » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:52 am

As to the worst I'd add Mitch McConnell. He just said he would vote for acquittal apparently as a signal to the possibly wavering Republicans in the Senate who might vote based actually on the evidence.
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Re: The political trial

Postby Delta75 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:05 pm

I agree.
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Re: The political trial

Postby Niner Delta » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:42 pm

They acquitted Trump today. With that out of the way, hopefully the country can move on
to taking care of important affairs. Even though he probably deserved some type of punishment
for his actions, we all knew it was never going to happen.
Time to take care of more important things, he is history.

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Re: The political trial

Postby Delta75 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:57 pm

I am hoping that Trump is now history; however, sadly, I am afraid that we have not yet seen the last of Trump.
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Re: The political trial

Postby Niner Alpha » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:40 pm

WASHINGTON (AP) — In his speech Saturday from the Senate floor, Sen. Mitch McConnell delivered a scalding denunciation of Donald Trump, calling him “morally responsible” for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

But in his vote on Trump’s impeachment, McConnell said “not guilty” because he said a former president could not face trial in the Senate. Then he added at some point that Trump hadn't gotten away with anything yet. Yeah ...right...if some state or federal agency goes after him for something. McConnell was party loyal to Trump no matter what the evidence showed and his lips were saying. He can't have it both ways.


Maybe McConnell was referring to Trump's tax issue in New York or the trying to intimidate an election official in Georgia or wherever he is being accused of rapes from the past. Now that Trump isn't protected by the Presidential shield from indictment maybe he will get a real trial for something he did that he can't get away with because the jury isn't likely to be as easily fixed in his favor.
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Re: The political trial

Postby Niner Alpha » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:29 am

The Congress could have ...or still could...go after Trump for Treason and only need a simple majority in both houses to convict. Instead we have some "committees" produced by Nancy Pelosi to "investigate". But one law maker from Mississippi is suing Trump because of an obscure law directed at the Ku Klux Klan.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Democratic congressman accused Donald Trump in a federal lawsuit on Tuesday of inciting the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol and of conspiring with his lawyer and extremist groups to try to prevent the Senate from certifying the results of the presidential election he lost to Joe Biden.

The lawsuit from Mississippi’s Rep. Bennie Thompson, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, is part of an expected wave of litigation over the Jan. 6 riot and is believed to be the first filed by a member of Congress. It seeks unspecified punitive and compensatory damages.


The case against Trump was brought under a provision of the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, which was passed in response to KKK violence and prohibits violence or intimidation meant to prevent Congress or other federal officials from carrying out their constitutional duties.

Trump is going to need some better lawyers than Rudy and the guy he had at the impeachment.

https://apnews.com/article/bennie-thomp ... 047ef641a9

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